User talk:Russavia

Welcome to my talk page

Please leave any messages for me here, or feel free to email me. Russavia (talk) 07:55, 2 Hūrae 2012 (UTC)

Collaboration?

That topic is about as low a priority as I can imagine for translation. If you want the text in Māori, I suggest you pay a professional translator. Then you should pay someone to host the content for you, as it is unlikely to survive as an article on this Wikipedia. In the meantime, please do not use your user space as free web hosting.

You should upload your aviation images to Wikimedia commons. This encyclopedia does not host images.-gadfium (talk) 21:03, 19 Hūrae 2012 (UTC)

I have Maori friends in Perth who will be helping me to translate this article in the coming weeks (they are currently organising a wedding, so it is lower priority). The text is a userspace draft which will be used for translating, much like fr:User:Russavia/Polandball or hi:User:Russavia/Polandball, etc. We are allowed to have articles in userspace. Thanks. Russavia (talk) 21:07, 19 Hūrae 2012 (UTC)

We want articles which are either of relevance to Māori people, or of general encyclopedic importance. I don't see that this topic has any relevance to Māori, and it has been deleted from the English-language Wikipedia, so it appears not to have encyclopedic importance.

On the other hand, any means of getting new editors who are fluent in Māori is a good thing. I will restore your userspace draft, so long as it does get translated within a reasonable period of time.

However, the final product is still likely to be deleted from article space for the reasons I have given above. We do not strike bargains here to allow an unsuitable article just because a useful contribution has been made to another article. I will not delete the article myself without first asking for outside input on whether others consider it relevant. Since there are no such people here on the Māori Wikipedia, I will ask at the English Wikipedia New Zealand noticeboard or WikiProject.

If you still wish to assist this encyclopedia, I suggest you ask your friends to expand an existing article or create one on a topic of unquestionable notability. For example, they might like to add a few paragraphs at Ahitereiria. A translation of the lead section of the English article en:Australia would be ideal, but it does not have to be a translation. Adding an article on Perth would also be good.-gadfium (talk) 22:19, 19 Hūrae 2012 (UTC)

hi Gadfium, thanks for the message above. However, the sentiment expressed in it is actually quite flawed. Whilst obviously Maori Wikipedia would be expected to include content of relevance to Maori people, the Wikipedia project itself is the 'sum of all human knowledge'. This means that articles on a small village in the middle of Patagonia, or even an Internet meme, is of relevance to the project as a whole. Just as an article on the Whaitangi Treaty, for example, can be translated for say, the Kabyle language wikipedia, even though it would have no relevance to the Kabyle people.

An article on any subject may never get written on any project because editors have other priorities (often in their area of interest), or getting "essential articles" done. Please remember that Maori Wikipedia is essentially the sum of all human knowledge, in the Maori language, and editors will often edit on topics in their own area of interest.

My uploading of photos is by no means contingent on the article being translated either; as one can see from my own user page here on Maori Wikipedia; essentially in return for a translation, I would simply make any uploading a priority.

As to the article being deleted on English Wikipedia, the deletion was nothing but wiki political in nature. This is actually quite evident in that I received a 6 month block and an indefinite topic ban after accusations were levelled against me that I falsified sources and information in the article; the wiki political nature is evident in that the article was kept at AfD on Russian Wikipedia, and exists now on 40 different projects, with more on the way. Russavia (talk) 05:11, 15 Hepetema 2012 (UTC)