Wikipedia:Kōrero/2021

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Moving Wikimania 2021 to a Virtual Event[takatā pūtake]

Wikimania's logo.

Hello. Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. Please help translate to your language. Thank you!

Wikimania will be a virtual event this year, and hosted by a wide group of community members. Whenever the next in-person large gathering is possible again, the ESEAP Core Organizing Team will be in charge of it. Stay tuned for more information about how you can get involved in the planning process and other aspects of the event. Please read the longer version of this announcement on wikimedia-l.

ESEAP Core Organizing Team, Wikimania Steering Committee, Wikimedia Foundation Events Team, 15:16, 27 Hānuere 2021 (UTC)

Project Grant Open Call[takatā pūtake]

This is the announcement for the Project Grants program open call that started on January 11, with the submission deadline of February 10, 2021.
This first open call will be focussed on Community Organizing proposals. A second open call focused on research and software proposals is scheduled from February 15 with a submission deadline of March 16, 2021.

For the Round 1 open call, we invite you to propose grant applications that fall under community development and organizing (offline and online) categories. Project Grant funds are available to support individuals, groups, and organizations to implement new experiments and proven ideas, from organizing a better process on your wiki, coordinating a campaign or editathon series to providing other support for community building. We offer the following resources to help you plan your project and complete a grant proposal:

Program officers are also available to offer individualized proposal support upon request. Contact us if you would like feedback or more information.

We are excited to see your grant ideas that will support our community and make an impact on the future of Wikimedia projects. Put your idea into motion, and submit your proposal by February 10, 2021!

Please feel free to get in touch with questions about getting started with your grant application, or about serving on the Project Grants Committee. Contact us at projectgrantsTemplate:Atwikimedia.org. Please help us translate this message to your local language. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:01, 28 Hānuere 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New Wikipedia Library Collections Available Now (February 2021)[takatā pūtake]

Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL owl says sign up today!

The Wikipedia Library is announcing new free, full-access, accounts to reliable sources as part of our research access program. You can sign up to access research materials on the Library Card platform:

  • Taxmann – Taxation and law database
  • PNAS – Official journal of the National Academy of Sciences
  • EBSCO – New Arabic and Spanish language databases added

We have a wide array of other collections available, and a significant number now no longer require individual applications to access! Read more in our blog post.

Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects!

This message was delivered via the Global Mass Message tool to The Wikipedia Library Global Delivery List.

--12:57, 1 Pēpuere 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Folklore 2021 is back![takatā pūtake]

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You are humbly invited to participate in the Wiki Loves Folklore 2021 an international photography contest organized on Wikimedia Commons to document folklore and intangible cultural heritage from different regions, including, folk creative activities and many more. It is held every year from the 1st till the 28th of February.

You can help in enriching the folklore documentation on Commons from your region by taking photos, audios, videos, and submitting them in this commons contest.

Please support us in translating the project page and a banner message to help us spread the word in your native language.

Kind regards,

Wiki loves Folklore International Team

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:25, 6 Pēpuere 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Feminism & Folklore 1 February - 31 March[takatā pūtake]

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Greetings!

You are invited to participate in Feminism and Folklore writing contest. This year Feminism and Folklore will focus on feminism, women's biographies and gender-focused topics for the project in league with Wiki Loves Folklore gender gap focus with folk culture theme on Wikipedia. folk activities, folk games, folk cuisine, folk wear, fairy tales, folk plays, folk arts, folk religion, mythology, etc.

You can help us in enriching the folklore documentation on Wikipedia from your region by creating or improving articles centered on folklore around the world, including, but not limited to folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, women and queer personalities in folklore, folk culture (folk artists, folk dancers, folk singers, folk musicians, folk game athletes, women in mythology, women warriors in folklore, witches and witch-hunting, fairy tales and more. You can contribute to new articles or translate from the list of suggested articles here.

You can also support us in translating the project page and help us spread the word in your native language.

Learn more about the contest and prizes from our project page. Thank you.

Feminism and Folklore team,

Joy Agyepong (talk) 02:40, 16 Pēpuere 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal: Set two-letter project shortcuts as alias to project namespace globally[takatā pūtake]

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Hello everyone,

I apologize for posting in English. I would like to inform everyone that I created a new global request for comment (GRFC) at Meta Wiki, which may affect your project: m:Requests for comment/Set short project namespace aliases by default globally.

In this GRFC, I propose that two-project shortcuts for project names will become a default alias for the project namespace. For instance, on all Wikipedias, WP will be an alias to the Wikipedia: namespace (and similar for other projects). Full list is available in the GRFC.

This is already the case for Wikivoyages, and many individual projects asked for this alias to be implemented. I believe this makes it easier to access the materials in the project namespace, as well as creating shortcuts like WP:NPOV, as well as helps new projects to use this feature, without having to figure out how to request site configuration changes first.

As far as I can see, Wikipedia currently does not have such an alias set. This means that such an alias will be set for you, if the GRFC is accepted by the global community.

I would like to ask all community members to participate in the request for comment at Meta-Wiki, see m:Requests for comment/Set short project namespace aliases by default globally.

Please feel free to ask me if you have any questions about this proposal.

Best regards,
--Martin Urbanec (talk) 14:12, 18 Pēpuere 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Do you want to be among the first to get Reference Previews as a default feature?[takatā pūtake]

[Sorry, for writing in English. It would be great if you could add a translation.]

Example of a Reference Preview.png
Example of a Reference Preview

In the near future, editors and readers can get pop-ups for references in the same style as Page Previews: Reference Previews will soon be deployed to a first group of wikis as a default feature. They are an addition to the existing Page Previews feature, and both features will share the same setting, so they can be toggled on and off together per user.

Reference Previews show you a reference in a small pop-up when you hover over the reference number in square brackets. This way you can look up a reference without jumping down to the bottom of the page. More than 300 people on mi.wikipedia are currently testing Reference Previews as a beta feature. After many months of testing, bug fixing and other improvements, the feature will soon be enabled as a default feature.

New features like this are deployed in multiple batches, to ensure everything runs smoothly. We are now looking for a group of wikis who want to have the feature first. We were thinking of Maori Wikipedia as a good wiki for this because it already uses templates with classes which can show the reference types in the pop-up. As an example, see the second reference on Whangārei-terenga-paraoa.

If you want to know more about the feature, please have a look at the project page or write me a message on my talk page. We would be very excited to have Maori Wikipedia on board! -- For the Technical Wishes team at Wikimedia Germany, Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (talk) 09:29, 26 Pēpuere 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikifunctions logo contest[takatā pūtake]

01:47, 2 Māehe 2021 (UTC)

Universal Code of Conduct – 2021 consultations[takatā pūtake]

Universal Code of Conduct Phase 2[takatā pūtake]

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The Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) provides a universal baseline of acceptable behavior for the entire Wikimedia movement and all its projects. The project is currently in Phase 2, outlining clear enforcement pathways. You can read more about the whole project on its project page.

Drafting Committee: Call for applications[takatā pūtake]

The Wikimedia Foundation is recruiting volunteers to join a committee to draft how to make the code enforceable. Volunteers on the committee will commit between 2 and 6 hours per week from late April through July and again in October and November. It is important that the committee be diverse and inclusive, and have a range of experiences, including both experienced users and newcomers, and those who have received or responded to, as well as those who have been falsely accused of harassment.

To apply and learn more about the process, see Universal Code of Conduct/Drafting committee.

2021 community consultations: Notice and call for volunteers / translators[takatā pūtake]

From 5 April – 5 May 2021 there will be conversations on many Wikimedia projects about how to enforce the UCoC. We are looking for volunteers to translate key material, as well as to help host consultations on their own languages or projects using suggested key questions. If you are interested in volunteering for either of these roles, please contact us in whatever language you are most comfortable.

To learn more about this work and other conversations taking place, see Universal Code of Conduct/2021 consultations.

-- Xeno (WMF) (talk) 22:00, 5 Āperira 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Global bot policy changes[takatā pūtake]

Line numbering coming soon to all wikis[takatā pūtake]

-- Johanna Strodt (WMDE) 15:09, 12 Āperira 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested Values[takatā pūtake]

Timur Vorkul (WMDE) 14:08, 22 Āperira 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New Place Name Dictionary[takatā pūtake]

Kia ora! As you may know, I've been making Te Reo articles of Australian places, such as my article about Newcastle, NSW (Niukāhera). I would just like to point out there is a dictionary of Māori place names you can use. Feel free to use it; https://www.yumpu.com/id/document/read/12175617/a-preliminary-dictionary-of-maori-gainwords-volume-3

I need a bit of help linking them with the English articles via Wikidata though. Also, I made an appendix of Aussie place names if anyone needs it.
I've linked the new articles on Wikidata.-gadfium (talk) 01:49, 2 Mei 2021 (UTC)[reply]
A better source for the dictionary of Māori place names is https://ir.canterbury.ac.nz/handle/10092/4865, which gives the full three volumes and provides academic credits. The link above is volume 3.-gadfium (talk) 01:56, 2 Mei 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 1[takatā pūtake]

Universal Code of Conduct News
Issue 1, June 2021Read the full newsletter


Welcome to the first issue of Universal Code of Conduct News! This newsletter will help Wikimedians stay involved with the development of the new code, and will distribute relevant news, research, and upcoming events related to the UCoC.

Please note, this is the first issue of UCoC Newsletter which is delivered to all subscribers and projects as an announcement of the initiative. If you want the future issues delivered to your talk page, village pumps, or any specific pages you find appropriate, you need to subscribe here.

You can help us by translating the newsletter issues in your languages to spread the news and create awareness of the new conduct to keep our beloved community safe for all of us. Please add your name here if you want to be informed of the draft issue to translate beforehand. Your participation is valued and appreciated.

  • Affiliate consultations – Wikimedia affiliates of all sizes and types were invited to participate in the UCoC affiliate consultation throughout March and April 2021. (continue reading)
  • 2021 key consultations – The Wikimedia Foundation held enforcement key questions consultations in April and May 2021 to request input about UCoC enforcement from the broader Wikimedia community. (continue reading)
  • Roundtable discussions – The UCoC facilitation team hosted two 90-minute-long public roundtable discussions in May 2021 to discuss UCoC key enforcement questions. More conversations are scheduled. (continue reading)
  • Phase 2 drafting committee – The drafting committee for the phase 2 of the UCoC started their work on 12 May 2021. Read more about their work. (continue reading)
  • Diff blogs – The UCoC facilitators wrote several blog posts based on interesting findings and insights from each community during local project consultation that took place in the 1st quarter of 2021. (continue reading)

--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:05, 11 Hune 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimania 2021: Individual Program Submissions[takatā pūtake]

Dear all,

Wikimania 2021 will be hosted virtually for the first time in the event's 15-year history. Since there is no in-person host, the event is being organized by a diverse group of Wikimedia volunteers that form the Core Organizing Team (COT) for Wikimania 2021.

Event Program - Individuals or a group of individuals can submit their session proposals to be a part of the program. There will be translation support for sessions provided in a number of languages. See more information here.

Below are some links to guide you through;

Please note that the deadline for submission is 18th June 2021.

Announcements- To keep up to date with the developments around Wikimania, the COT sends out weekly updates. You can view them in the Announcement section here.

Office Hour - If you are left with questions, the COT will be hosting some office hours (in multiple languages), in multiple time-zones, to answer any programming questions that you might have. Details can be found here.

Best regards,

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:18, 16 Hune 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On behalf of Wikimania 2021 Core Organizing Team

Editing news 2021 #2[takatā pūtake]

14:14, 24 Hune 2021 (UTC)

Server switch[takatā pūtake]

SGrabarczuk (WMF) 01:19, 27 Hune 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Whenever I edit/create a page, it says my edit is "unconstructive" and it says it's "telephone support spam" (whatever that is) so it said to inform admins. Please help. YeeterManAUSTRALIA (talk) 03:07, 7 Ākuhata 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New Wikipedia Library collections and design update (August 2021)[takatā pūtake]

Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL OWL says log in today!

The Wikipedia Library is pleased to announce the addition of new collections, alongside a new interface design. New collections include:

Additionally, De Gruyter and Nomos have been centralised from their previous on-wiki signup location on the German Wikipedia. Many other collections are freely available by simply logging in to The Wikipedia Library with your Wikimedia login!

We are also excited to announce that the first version of a new design for My Library was deployed this week. We will be iterating on this design with more features over the coming weeks. Read more on the project page on Meta.

Lastly, an Echo notification will begin rolling out soon to notify eligible editors about the library (T132084). If you can translate the notification please do so at TranslateWiki!

--The Wikipedia Library Team 13:23, 11 Ākuhata 2021 (UTC)

This message was delivered via the Global Mass Message tool to The Wikipedia Library Global Delivery List.

Universal Code of Conduct - Enforcement draft guidelines review[takatā pūtake]

The Universal Code of Conduct Phase 2 drafting committee would like comments about the enforcement draft guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC). This review period is planned for 17 August 2021 through 17 October 2021.

These guidelines are not final but you can help move the progress forward. The committee will revise the guidelines based upon community input.

Comments can be shared in any language on the draft review talk page and multiple other venues. Community members are encouraged to organize conversations in their communities.

There are planned live discussions about the UCoC enforcement draft guidelines:

Wikimania 2021 session (recorded 16 August)
Conversation hours - 24 August, 31 August, 7 September @ 03:00 UTC & 14:00 UTC
Roundtable calls - 18 September @ 03:00 UTC & 15:00 UTC

Summaries of discussions will be posted every two weeks here.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Xeno (WMF) 23:19, 17 Ākuhata 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election has come to an end[takatā pūtake]

Thank you for participating in the 2021 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election! Voting closed August 31 at 23:59. The official data, including the four most voted candidates, will be announced as soon as the Elections Committee completes their review of the ballots. The official announcement of the new trustees appointed will happen later, once the selected candidates have been confirmed by the Board.

6,946 community members from 216 wiki projects have voted. This makes 10.2% global participation, 1.1% higher than in the last Board elections. In 2017, 5167 people from 202 wiki projects cast their vote. A full analysis is planned to be published in a few days when the confirmed results are announced. In the meantime, you can check the data produced during the election.

Diversity was an important goal with these elections. Messages about the Board election were translated into 61 languages. This outreach worked well. There were 70 communities with eligible voters voting in this election for the first time. With your help, next year’s Board of Trustees election will be even better.

10:03, 2 Hepetema 2021 (UTC)

The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey will happen in January[takatā pūtake]

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:23, 7 Hepetema 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee ending 14 September 2021[takatā pūtake]

Movement Strategy announces the Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee. The Call opens August 2, 2021 and closes September 14, 2021.

The Committee is expected to represent diversity in the Movement. Diversity includes gender, language, geography, and experience. This comprises participation in projects, affiliates, and the Wikimedia Foundation.

English fluency is not required to become a member. If needed, translation and interpretation support is provided. Members will receive an allowance to offset participation costs. It is US$100 every two months.

We are looking for people who have some of the following skills:

  • Know how to write collaboratively. (demonstrated experience is a plus)
  • Are ready to find compromises.
  • Focus on inclusion and diversity.
  • Have knowledge of community consultations.
  • Have intercultural communication experience.
  • Have governance or organization experience in non-profits or communities.
  • Have experience negotiating with different parties.

The Committee is expected to start with 15 people. If there are 20 or more candidates, a mixed election and selection process will happen. If there are 19 or fewer candidates, then the process of selection without election takes place.

Will you help move Wikimedia forward in this important role? Submit your candidacy here. Please contact strategy2030(_AT_)wikimedia.org with questions.

Xeno (WMF) 17:01, 10 Hepetema 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Server switch[takatā pūtake]

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (kōrero) 00:45, 11 Hepetema 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Talk to the Community Tech[takatā pūtake]

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Hello!

As we have recently announced, we, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on September 15th, 23:00 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.

Agenda

Format

The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (first three points in the agenda) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, and Spanish. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.

Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.

Invitation link

See you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (kōrero) 03:03, 11 Hepetema 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Place names[takatā pūtake]

Please use Māori place names (if known/available) when creating articles about cities, countries (see this website for a list of country names in Māori), states or towns. For example; Poihākena for Sydney, Rānana for London, Parī for Paris, Hākata for Jakarta and so on. Could someone move these articles for me?

For more Māori place names and words, see Māori Dictionary. Thanks. 144.136.10.9 02:58, 25 Hepetema 2021 (UTC)[reply]

-IMHO only- Anybody with an account (its creating is simple and give more serious attitude) can move pages himself. But it is not recommended to move pages without knowing about reasons why they were created in existing way. (I no have knowledge about style in Maori Wikipedia, I speak from own experience in another version.)--Egilus (talk) 11:24, 25 Hepetema 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Select You the question statements for candidates of Drafting Committee Movement Charter[takatā pūtake]

Into 2021-10-04 11:59:59 UTC you can select question statements for the candidates of Drafting Committee Movement Charter. ✍️ Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 02:15, 30 Hepetema 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Voting for the election for the members for the Movement Charter drafting committee is now open[takatā pūtake]

Voting for the election for the members for the Movement Charter drafting committee is now open. In total, 70 Wikimedians from around the world are running for 7 seats in these elections.

Voting is open from October 12 to October 24, 2021.

The committee will consist of 15 members in total: The online communities vote for 7 members, 6 members will be selected by the Wikimedia affiliates through a parallel process, and 2 members will be appointed by the Wikimedia Foundation. The plan is to assemble the committee by November 1, 2021.

Learn about each candidate to inform your vote in the language that you prefer: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates>

Learn about the Drafting Committee: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee>

We are piloting a voting advice application for this election. Click yourself through the tool and you will see which candidate is closest to you! Check at <https://mcdc-election-compass.toolforge.org/>

Read the full announcement: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Elections>

Go vote at SecurePoll on: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Elections>

Best,

Movement Strategy & Governance Team, Wikimedia Foundation

Xeno (WMF) 02:25, 14 Oketopa 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Learn how Movement Strategy Implementation Grants can support your Movement Strategy plans[takatā pūtake]

Movement Strategy Implementation grants now provide more than $2,000 USD to put Movement Strategy plans into action. Find out more about Movement Strategy Implementation grants, the criteria, and how to apply.

MNadzikiewicz (WMF) (talk) 13:30, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Meet the new Movement Charter Drafting Committee members[takatā pūtake]

The Movement Charter Drafting Committee election and selection processes are complete.

The committee will convene soon to start its work. The committee can appoint up to three more members to bridge diversity and expertise gaps.

If you are interested in engaging with Movement Charter drafting process, follow the updates on Meta and join the Telegram group.

With thanks from the Movement Strategy and Governance team

15:53, 5 Noema 2021 (UTC)


Upcoming Call for Feedback about the Board of Trustees elections[takatā pūtake]

You can find this message translated into additional languages on Meta-wiki.

The Board of Trustees is preparing a call for feedback about the upcoming Board Elections, from January 7 - February 10, 2022.

While details will be finalized the week before the call, we have confirmed at least two questions that will be asked during this call for feedback:

  • What is the best way to ensure fair representation of emerging communities among the Board?
  • What involvement should candidates have during the election?

While additional questions may be added, the Movement Strategy and Governance team wants to provide time for community members and affiliates to consider and prepare ideas on the confirmed questions before the call opens. We apologize for not having a complete list of questions at this time. The list of questions should only grow by one or two questions. The intention is to not overwhelm the community with requests, but provide notice and welcome feedback on these important questions.

Do you want to help organize local conversation during this Call?

Contact the Movement Strategy and Governance team on Meta, on Telegram, or via email at msg(_AT_)wikimedia.org.

Reach out if you have any questions or concerns. The Movement Strategy and Governance team will be minimally staffed until January 3. Please excuse any delayed response during this time. We also recognize some community members and affiliates are offline during the December holidays. We apologize if our message has reached you while you are on holiday.

Best,

Movement Strategy and Governance

RamzyM (WMF) (talk) 04:48, 27 Tīhema 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New name for Māori Wikipedia[takatā pūtake]

In Māori, the letter D doesn't exist. The Hawaiian Wikipedia is Wikipikia and the Tahitian one is Vitipitia. So I think we should make the Māori one Wikipītia. Could someone fix the logo (maybe an admin like @Gadfium)? Thanks. 101.190.65.131

I think that's above my pay grade. If we had an active community, we could discuss it with a procedure similar to the English Wikipedia's RFC (request for comment) and take a recommendation to the WikiMedia Foundation based on the results. Anyone is most welcome to discuss a change of logo/name here; perhaps the discussion will draw interest from Māori-speaking Wikipedians.-gadfium (talk) 01:31, 6 Noema 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I suggested this because again, the letter D doesn't exist in Māori. The Tahitian Wikipedia is Vitipetia because there is no D, K, or W in Tahitian and the Hawaiian one is Wikipikia because there is no D or T in Hawaiian. The Welsh one is Wicipedia, the Irish one is Vicipéid, the Scots Gaelic one is Uicipéid, the Nauruan one is Wikipediya, the Norfuk/Pitkern one is Wikapiidiya, the Catalan one is Viquipédia, the French, Portuguese, Balinese and Tetun ones is Wikipédia, the Scots one is Wikipaedia, the Navajo one is Wikibíídiya, the Cebuano one is Wikipedya, the Nāhutal one is Huiquipedia and so on. I think we should consider making the Māori one Wikipītia, considering Māori almost always adopts exonymns due to its grammar and spelling rule (i.e the Māori alphabet is A, Ā, E, Ē, H, I, Ī, K, M, N, Ng, O, Ō, P, R, T, U, Ū, W, Wh and there has to be a vowel after every consonant, therefore no Māori word ends in a consonant). Thanks. 101.190.65.131 21:27, 6 Noema 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking that to change the name required more than changing the logo, e.g. the Wikipedia namespace would need to change name, but looking at the Hawaiian and Tahitian Wikipedias I see they have not changed this. I think the procedure to change the logo is to file a request at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/. Please do not do this yourself. We would need a consensus on this Wikipedia, and given the lack of contributors I'm not sure how we could establish one.-gadfium (talk) 01:42, 7 Noema 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The procedure to change it is m:Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes#Changing_a_wiki's_logo. The current logo is at commons:File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-mi.svg. If you have the skill, I suggest you take this and modify it to say "Wikipītia", then upload it to commons under a new name (don't overwrite the existing one, that won't work and will confuse the process).-gadfium (talk) 02:13, 7 Noema 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. 2001:8003:3670:D800:6991:6F6B:F884:1AFA 20:37, 18 Noema 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Vote: Rename Māori Wikipedia to Wikipītia[takatā pūtake]

The following discussion is an archived record of a request for comment. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The request for comment or vote has run for a full month, and no additional comment has been posted for over two weeks.

Two people (including the proposer) supported the proposal as written, and a third supported in principal but did not support a specific name. One other person initially supported and then withdrew their support on seeing opposing arguments. Two people opposed the proposal, because they did not believe or were not convinced the proposed name was the most appropriate. Everyone who commented about the proposal agreed a name change was a good idea, but but the names supported included "Wikipītia" (as proposed), Wikipitia (without a macron), "Wikipīria", or a new Māori term perhaps based around "mātāpunenga" rather than a translation.

To move forward, a conversation about the most appropriate name should be started separately, with expert input sought, as User:Nurg suggested. I emailed the Māori Language Commission for an opinion before Christmas but they have not responded. I am not in a position to look further for expert opinion and I'm not sure who else is in such a position.gadfium (talk) 02:37, 18 Hānuere 2022 (UTC)[reply]


(Conversation started a while ago, see above)

In Māori, the letter D does not exists and the sound EE is created by the letter Ī. The Hawaiian and Tahitian Wikipedias are Wikipikia and Vitipetia respectively to fit their language needs (Māori, Hawaiian and Tahitian are all Polynesian languages). I propose a vote here on the proposed new name. If the majority of contributors agree, could someone change the logo? I encourage all Māori Wikipedians to vote on this proposal, as consensus is required. Thanks! Uluṟu Minecrafter (talk) 04:25, 18 Tīhema 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Whakahē / Oppose. As I have outlined below I believe that the best orthography for the transliteration of Wikipedia into te reo Māori is Wikipitia, without a macron on the third i, and so cannot support the current proposal. Paora (talk) 08:49, 19 Tīhema 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Either one should be used. Uluṟu Minecrafter (talk) 02:32, 20 Tīhema 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, pending further info. I would support changing to a Māori name, but I don't see enough info here as to why it should be Wikipītia.
  1. The modern tendency in creating new Māori terms is to use original components rather than transliterations, so the name could perhaps be based around mātāpunenga instead.
  2. If using a transliteration, why Wikipītia rather than Wikipīria? The English 'd' is just as often transliterated to the Māori 'r' (which is not the same as the English 'r') as it is to 't', e.g. Rāwiri for David. However, maybe 't' would be more appropriate – I just pose the question, as I am not sure.
  3. The original proposal of Wikipītia has now become "either Wikipītia or Wikipitia". It should be one or the other.
  4. An indication of the proposer's (Uluṟu Minecrafter) competence in Māori would be useful. The fact they are now globally blocked (as is their 'mate' and alleged puppetmaster Special:Contributions/Te Reo Ahitereiria) does not inspire confidence.
I think this proposal should fail. If anyone wants to proceed with a name change, I suggest starting with a discussion about process, e.g. how would we seek expert input. The huge issue for this WP is not the name, but the current shortage (or is it a complete lack) of competent editors. Nurg (talk) 00:52, 1 Hānuere 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral[takatā pūtake]

Discussion[takatā pūtake]

Transliteration: either Wikipītia or Wikipitia will be used (hopefully this solves the dispute) @Paora @Chocmilk03. Uluṟu Minecrafter (talk)

I have mentioned this proposal on two pages of the English Wikipedia in the hopes of getting more feedback: en:Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board#Discussion on renaming the Māori Wikipedia and en:Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board#Discussion on renaming the Māori Wikipedia. I have also posted at m:Wikimedia Forum#Discussion on renaming the Māori Wikipedia. If there are other places I should notify, please let me know or make the posts yourself.-gadfium (talk) 17:58, 18 Tīhema 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to to throe my weight behind the consensus of fluent te reo speakers who express an opinion on this. Without fluent speakers contributing (to this issue and the wiki) the whole thing is moot. Stuartyeates (talk) 20:43, 18 Tīhema 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Given that many people in Australia and New Zealand will be on holiday over the next few weeks, I suggest we let this run for a full month before evaluating a consensus. My plan is to not vote myself and be the closer, but if anyone would prefer I can ask at meta for an uninvolved person to close.-gadfium (talk) 22:18, 18 Tīhema 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support the concept, not totally convinced about the proposed name. I'm not convinced that the macron is required; to my ear the length of all the vowels in Wikipedia is the same, so I would suggest Wikipitia rather than Wikipītia. I note that ʻōlelo Hawaiʻi also uses macrons to denote vowel length, and that Hawaiian Wikipedia, i.e. Wikipikia, does not include a macron in its name. Paora (talk) 23:00, 18 Tīhema 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Paora The macron is necessary otherwise the word sounds different. Macrons are very important in Māori, as the indicate a long vowel (i.e ā, ē, ī, ō, ū). So, with that being said, "Wikipītia" sounds like "wikipeetia" ("ī" sounds like "ea" in "spear" or a bit like "ee" in "sheep"), but "Wikipitia" sounds like "wikipitia" ("i" sounds "i" in words like "fish" and "six", when said with an Australian accent as New Zealanders pronounce those words "f/sh" and "s/x" respectively). I hope this helps. Uluṟu Minecrafter (talk) 01:51, 19 Tīhema 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that. I am fully conversant with both te reo pronunciation and orthography, and understand the difference between i and ī. The sound of the aforementioned vowels is the same; the difference comes in the length of that sound. As I said previously, my hearing of the e in Wikipedia is that it is a short te reo i not a long te reo ī. I see nothing in your explanation above to persuade me otherwise. Therefore, when transliterating Wikipedia into te reo Māori, I continue to contend that the best kupu is Wikipitia and not Wikipītia, and would support the former. Consequently I cannot support the current proposal and will vote accordingly. Paora (talk) 08:47, 19 Tīhema 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I see what your saying and that makes sense. Uluṟu Minecrafter (talk) 00:17, 20 Tīhema 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have no opinion at all on this subject, but I think it's worth pointing out that the proposer is a blatant sockpuppet of Te Reo Ahitereiria. Graham87 (talk) 00:47, 19 Tīhema 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's a lie. I started contributing here when a mate of mine told me about how he made most Australia articles here, so I decided to join the wiki and plain to edit more often. I know who Te Reo Ahitereiria is (he is the one who told me about the wiki). Plus you don't edit here! You're an admin on the English Wikipedia, so you can't block people here. Thanks. Uluṟu Minecrafter (talk) 00:17, 20 Tīhema 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Month and day names[takatā pūtake]

Also, why are the dates here shown as English adaptations/bastardisations (e.g December is shown as Tīhema). There is a Māori calendar with day and month names that are not like this (e.g Sunday = Rātapu ≠ Hāne). Could someone fix this on [1]? Uluṟu Minecrafter (talk) 01:51, 19 Tīhema 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Uluṟu Minecrafter: I have made this a new section because it's not connected to the name of the Māori Wikipedia.
It's my understanding that Hakihea is a lunar month and is not quite identical to December.[2] Today is 19 Tīhema, but I think it is not necessarily 19 Hakihea, and I don't think we are ready to start using completely different month boundaries even if the Wikimedia software supports that. My understanding may be out of date. The date/timestamps don't show a day of the week for me; perhaps we have different preferences set or are using different skins. I have no objection to changing to the Māori rather than transliterated names of the days.-gadfium (talk) 02:31, 19 Tīhema 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Okay thanks. Maybe you have English enabled as your display language (see if the sidebar on the left shows in Māori or English). Uluṟu Minecrafter (talk) 06:30, 19 Tīhema 2021 (UTC)[reply]